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 Post subject: Re: We really need to look into supplements for bones
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BW this year? My Onc had me doing blood work every 4 months. I knew he was torturing me unnecessarily. I had to go see him every 4 months for 5 years! Another reason why I don't want to get my dexa scan done...the Doc that does them always has sick people in his waiting room.

Sneezing, coughing. I so dislike going to family care doctors. Its a small waiting room also, so small I can see the germs flying around. I'd like to find a bone Dr. and have the scan done there. At least we wouldn't expect to see flu victims sitting in their office.

Maybe we should be seeing a specialist for bones instead of expecting our Oncs to be on top of the latest in bones. I wonder what they're called?


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I believe endocrinologists are the docs we would need to see. There's supposed to be a real good one at Duke. But I don't want to go to Duke for everything. I see my gyn there and it's been over a year. Just hate making the trip.

As far as family practices...I'm having a very hard time. My doctor died (as you know) and now another doctor will be finally taking over. However, I've been loosing my patience with them I was looking at other doctors. I always like a referral from a friend before seeing a new one. Anyway, my dh finally had to go to a new doc because of the injury to his leg..blood clot..wonderful..think you know about this already. Anyway, from what I can tell it's a family practice and a large one. My doc's office is small. However, he was an internal medicine doctor. I believe the woman doc who's taking his place is a GP. I don't think she'd make that practice a family practice and I don't know if she's any good. And, many of Dr. Hutchins's patients were old like me...LOL. I guess he was waiting to retire until most of the old people died.

I just HATE changing doctors. I'm going to give her a try and then decide since all my records are there. No sick kids EVER. Never saw a child in there.


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 Post subject: Re: We really need to look into supplements for bones
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We are just going to have to bite the bullet and get rid of all soy in our diets. I understand Kraft makes a mayo with olive oil, so off I go to look for it. I also found crackers without soy, and chocolate!
Look at your ketchup label. It never ends.

Soybeans are high in phytic acid, present in the bran or hulls of all seeds. It's a substance that can block the uptake of essential minerals - calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and especially zinc - in the intestinal tract.
Although not a household word, phytic acid has been extensively studied; there are literally hundreds of articles on the effects of phytic acid in the current scientific literature. Scientists are in general agreement that grain- and legume-based diets high in phytates contribute to widespread mineral deficiencies in third world countries.15

Analysis shows that calcium, magnesium, iron and zinc are present in the plant foods eaten in these areas, but the high phytate content of soy- and grain-based diets prevents their absorption.

The soybean has one of the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been studied,16 and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal phytate-reducing techniques such as long, slow cooking.17 Only a long period of fermentation will significantly reduce the phytate content of soybeans.

Here starts more searching. Which grains are high in phytates?

Ok, I just read that not all phytates are bad. They work to keep us from overdosing of minerals also, such as iron. So some is good that is in bran.


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Did you ever stop to think what makes tomatoes turn red? It’s the powerful bone-building antioxidant lycopene, also present in watermelons, pink grapefruits, apricots, papayas, and other fruits.

What makes tomatoes even more special is that they’re in season year-round so it’s an easy and delicious way to benefit from lycopene’s powerful antioxidant properties.

Antioxidants protect cells from the damaging effects of free-radicals, and studies show that lycopene in particular protects and stimulates osteoblasts, which are important bone-building cells that synthesize and deposit bone matrix (Kim, Rao, Journal of Medicinal Food, “Lycopene II – Effect on osteoblasts”. 2003).

Harness the power of cooked tomatoes
According to researchers, the bioavailability or absorption of lycopene is greatest when tomatoes are cooked with olive oil (Fielding JM et al., Asia Pacific Journal of Clinical Nutrition. “Increases in plasma lycopene concentration after consumption of tomatoes cooked with olive oil.” 2005).

You see, when tomatoes are cooked, the lycopene in the raw tomato is converted into trans-lycopene, which is more readily absorbed.

Amazingly, this study showed an even greater increase in plasma lycopene concentrations in subjects who consumed tomatoes cooked in olive oil.


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 Post subject: Re: We really need to look into supplements for bones
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Okay, now I'll add tomatoes cooked in olive oil on my list. I like both.

Tender (on BCO) said olive oil will stop mets in their track. I need to look that up. I may be drinking a bottle of oilive oil per day. I just hope I can fit through the door...LOL


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You might want to take a look at Constantine's report on K2. Looks like I need to increase that. Remember I found a D with K2. I am only taking one of those Ds. I'm going to increase it.

Evidence-based Osteoporosis Treatment

http://home.earthlink.net/~ckaniklidis/osteonews.htm#VitK


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Thanks Shirley,

I've been reading through the material. By accident, I am now the owner of 1000 citrate calcium pills. Then I'm reading that might not be the optimal form of calcium to be taking. It never ends. Carbonate and citrate keep us from absorbing phosphorus.

Heaney even suggests that the companies selling these minerals are not up to speed with the latest in research findings. For sure, because we can't find the right products to buy.

Yesterday, I was reading research about powdered broccoli and broccoli sprouts, and how effective the powder was to do whatever. I go to look for that exact product and it's not sold in small orders. Why do research on food extracts and powders that we can't buy!?!

I'm afraid to up my intake of K2 without knowing more about it with the pills I take. I did buy the D and K2, from NOW also. What to do, what to do?


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 Post subject: Re: We really need to look into supplements for bones
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I'm thinking that Constantine has recommended Calcium phosphate. I thought we got enough of that in our foods.

I'm taking two of the Calcium with K. Geez, I had not thought about the K and other meds.

Don't get me more mixed up than I already am. :?


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